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PostSubject: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:50 am

With Ryan a dead duck and no chance he'll be here next year who can we turn to.

McStay would be a decent shout.
Not many Kildare men putting their hand up.
J.D and Dermot are to close to this group to manage them.
Jack O Connor is the dream, but he won't waste his time.

Who ever it is the CB should be looking now. Not in November.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:01 am

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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:05 am

Cian O'Neill obviously the strongest candidate in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:05 am

I would take anyone that has a bit of passion and puts the pride back in the jersey obviously need a bit of tactical nous aswell. McStay would be good with Glen Ryan and Brian Murphy both involved as selectors.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:08 am

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I would take anyone that has a bit of passion and puts the pride back in the jersey obviously need a bit of tactical nous aswell. McStay would be good with Glen Ryan and Brian Murphy both involved as selectors.
cannot see glen coming in as a number 2
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:22 am

Would like to see McStay coming to Kildare. Read Shane Curran's book and he speaks very very highly of him. Wouldn't mind giving Glenn Ryan a chance either. He did well with Longford. If he comes it'll be as the number one man though I'd say.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:31 am

Forgot about O Neill, would he bother going from Kerry to us. I highly doubt it.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:35 am

O Neill would be perfect to get in as a trainer, couldn't see him leaving Kerry even though he did leave Tipperary hurlers after winning the all Ireland!
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:44 am

Any of the above at this stage would likely be a marked improvement.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:46 am

Think O'Neill might be tempted by the fact it's his home county and he'd be manager instead of trainer. Far more likely than Jack O'Connor anyway (how would we pay for someone like that?)
We might struggle to pay for someone like McStay come to think of it. Also, I don't really understand why McStay is near the top of all these lists all of a sudden on the basis of one club All-Ireland. Doesn't prove to me he'd be a top-class inter-county manager.
I would have gone for Glenn a few years ago but that ship seems to have sailed.

Anyway barring a serious turnaround in results I'd say this could be Jason Ryan's last season and O'Neill is the only clear improvement I can see out there. Remains to be seen whether he'd make the transition from trainer to manager but worth a shot.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:48 am

What makes you think G Ryan's ship has sailed O2B?
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:57 am

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What makes you think G Ryan's ship has sailed O2B?

Ah just that he's a bit older now. He also seems to have rubbed people in Kildare GAA up the wrong way. I don't think that should make a difference but players and officials seem to think it does.

I get slated for this by people that don't like him but I'd love to have seen him take over in 2008. One of my favourite days as a Kildare supporter was the U21 win over Dublin that year. The scoreline might have been close but we kicked them off the pitch, a performance full of pride and passion. Chalky destroyed Diarmuid Connolly until he had no ideas other than to get sent off. Jim Gavin was Dublin manager.

Seven years on and Gavin is an All-Ireland winning manager while Glenn wasn't even worthy of a shot. White's career never happened and Connolly is one of the best footballers in the country. Several of the Dublin team we beat that day have two All-Ireland medals and we haven't a Leinster senior medal between us.

Extremely depressing. But of course Glenn is from Kildare and would have done the job for free. Couldn't possibly have been good enough for us when we can scramble the money together for a quick fix.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:46 am

My guess is that our next manager will be Bryan Murphy provided a good showing with the u21s this year. The vast majority of the panel would have played under him at minor level and speak very highly of him. You would expect he would command the respect of the panel at the very least. Having agreed to take over the u21s after being minor manager from 2009-2013, there must be a strong possibility that he has designs on a crack at the senior gig at some point. He would also have had Cian O'Neill on board before with the minors so I suppose there could be a chance that they could work together again sometime in the future.

A quick glance at the budgetary figures reveals the extent to which county squad expenses have been pared back so it is fanciful to expect another big outside name. I would have liked to see Glenn Ryan get an opportunity at some stage but the mere mention of that possibility seems to bring some Kildare people out in a rash for some reason.

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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:00 am

Mcstay wouldn't be bad choice imo, would have a lot to prove being so publicly snubbed for the mayo job I think he would have a chip on his shoulder and bring plenty of passion
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:51 pm

Cian O'Neill would have to be your first choice. He fits the bill as a coach, motivator and he's a native. I'd have him miles over McStay - he has achieved much more.

The budgetary issue is a big one though. Kildare can't fork out the cash for a manager but not just that, they cannot fork out to prepare the senior team like they used to. I think last year, the budget was a third of Kerry's and it's less again this year. So that will immediately reduce your field.

But you should ask guys anyway. I'd have O'Neill first if possible, over Jack O'Connor and definitely over McStay.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:10 pm

I far as I am aware Cian is now working in Cork so I don't think its a runner that he could give the time invovled allowing for the distance between Kildare and Cork.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:14 pm

A lot of people here rate O'Neil highly but has he ever managed a team? How much say has he into the tactics used on the day?
Remember it took McGeeney a while to get the hang of management and he would have looked a natural choice to adapt quickly to new role given his leadership qualities on the pitch.
Cant understand the antipathy to Glen Ryan on here, no player in my time watching the game gave more to Kildare in terms of leadership on the pitch and he came closer to winning an underage AI for Kildare than anyone since with a team of just a few top quality players.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:21 pm

I would give Glenn Ryan a shot with probably Earley and Rainbow as Selectors. Someone said you cant give Glenn Ryan the job because it would rub some people up the wrong way maybe thats whats needed. I think they would bring a bit of leadership and a bit of determination back to the group.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:59 am

Passion is the first thing we need. It's not the only thing but it is the first thing.....
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:28 am

Jez Im in shock.. I was touting Glen pre Jason for many a while, but the mere suggestion had People (certain) having Anurisms.. and I dont agree that He wouldnt have an interes still.
I would give Murphy a couple of Years with the U21s and maybe a bit Role under Glen to learn His Trade at Adult level.. Lacey is another who should be involved at some level imo.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:02 am

To be fair, Murphy has been involved at senior level. He was a selector way back in 2005. I had it in my head that he was selector under two different managers but I know it wasn't with Geezer so I'm wondering if he was in with Crofton. Maybe it was only the once.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:41 am

Mixer Condon.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:58 am

fone wrote:
LillieLad wrote:
I would take anyone that has a bit of passion and puts the pride back in the jersey obviously need a bit of tactical nous aswell. McStay would be good with Glen Ryan and Brian Murphy both involved as selectors.
cannot see glen coming in as a number 2
No harm in asking or maybe someone like Dermot.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:35 am

More seriously, Tony McEntee. Record outstanding and his Examiner columns gave the greatest insight and understand of GAA tactics I've ever heard or read. Seriously impressive character. Would love him in Kildare.
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PostSubject: Re: Next manager: Suggestions.   Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:00 am

Managing Brigids in Dublin at the moment I believe, I suggested him as a replacement to McGeeney and I agree he would be a great choice. Whether he would have any interest in coaching Kildare is a different thing altogether!!
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