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PostSubject: Referee Watch   Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:16 am

Usually this kind of thing is not encouraged, rating refereeing is like-careful now, let's not offend anyone. However having watched both U21 semi finals today I believe the GAA should reassess there attitude to Gaelic football refs.

To keep it legit I suggest:
1. No personal attacks, stay with the game.
2. Try not be bias
3. Track record is allowed- re Cormac OReilly et al.

Today's games were a perfect example of awful refereeing and what a good ref should be.
Cork v Monaghan
Cork scored 2:15 all from play.
the only thing the ref got wrong was the black card which was the linesmans call, a dive by the Monaghan player, the diving is rife in ulster. Cheating is so obvious and the ref was absolutely on the ball.
Refereeing: 9/10

Dublin v Mayo
For some reason the ref thought Dublin defenders weren't fouling and the mayo defenders couldn't tackle. This kept Dublin in the game in the first half. Once the ref started with that attitude the rest was all about him, and some really good football I must say. If only the ref was up to it. Dublin defenders tackle the man all the time without pulling, is it a foul? Mayo defenders touch a Dub and the ref gave a free. The turning point was when the crowd and OConnor literally roared the ref into being fair. The result, he gave mayo everything for the last ten minutes. As dubious frees as you'll see. Mayo deserved to win though.

Refereeing: Brutal.

Have to say, U21 football is great to watch. Sean Powter and Diarmaid OConner were excellent, as were OCallaghan and Basquel.






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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Sun Apr 17, 2016 10:28 pm

Really enjoyed the games. And couldn't argue with your assessment.. Mayo were the better team, but some of the frees especially the winning one was a shocker.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:09 am

Agree totally on all fronts. The Dublin/Mayo ref's performance was appalling. He virtually gifted Dublin the match - hard on players dealing with that kind of performance. I'm not optimistic, on past experience, of our renowned ref for next Saturday versus Clare!
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:15 am

johnsmyth wrote:


the only thing the ref got wrong was the black card which was the linesman's call, a dive by the Monaghan player, the diving is rife in ulster.


Agree, awful call by the linesman who I believe was our own Brendan Cawley. It was an obvious attempt to get the Cork lad carded.

I also agree, diving, be it in Ulster or anywhere else is ruining the art of defending. Monaghan's Conor McManus has turned it into a skill that is praised and revered by the media.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:20 am

FearBan wrote:
johnsmyth wrote:


the only thing the ref got wrong was the black card which was the linesman's call, a dive by the Monaghan player, the diving is rife in ulster.


Agree, awful call by the linesman who I believe was our own Brendan Cawley. It was an obvious attempt to get the Cork lad carded.

I also agree, diving, be it in Ulster or anywhere else is ruining the art of defending. Monaghan's Conor McManus has turned it into a skill that is praised and revered by the media.

Well that's not a shock. Wouldn't be a fan of his at all as a ref or his attitude when officiating.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:39 am

He's has some attitude Frankel.. don't think about questioning his decisions.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:18 am

Heard he reffed a recent SFL game and blew it up 5 minutes early because players were constantly questioning his decisions.

He has a huge ego for some reason.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:50 pm

Taibi, Agree 100%. Same ref was did a SHL league match last night started the game 2 mins early and had left the field before he finished blowing the full time whistle, ran to his car and left the ground like a get away driver. Someone said he was in a hurry to get home to get his dinner. Seemed to me like the game was beneath him or some reason. Shocking attitude overall.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:37 pm

Yeah he's intercounty now, so everything else is beneath him.

Jez even the great tanned one hasn't his attitude. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:30 am

That didn't take long.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:01 am

Ogie wrote:
That didn't take long.

??
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:29 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:59 am

Kinsella did a decent enough job yesterday - missed a couple of things but nothing major.
Branagan (sp?) wasn't great in the Division 2 game.
Less said about our guy Saturday night the better.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:58 am

Thought Kinsella was good yesterday too. He let the game flow as much as he could but he should have sent off Shane Enright for the tackle that led to the penalty, he was already on a yellow.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:08 am

Is there a ref strike looming
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:11 am

the young lad wrote:
Is there a ref strike looming
????

Although, it's not the first time you've asked a question like this!
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:24 am

the young lad wrote:
Is there a ref strike looming

What are you on about??
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Fri Apr 29, 2016 9:01 pm

Talking to a ref in croke park Saturday night and he was saying if the county board dont cop on the refs won't be reffin . something to do with there ref pass and charging umpires in games
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:48 pm



Do they want to be paid for the games they ref & RFEE into other games games .


So every player in the county should then be entitled to be free into all games,,,,,,,,

Let nobody pay,,,,,,,,, bit like water now !!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:43 am

Do all referees not receive a GAA pass that allows them into matches for free ?.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:38 pm

I've never heard of this ref's pass before and I stood on the gate for years. Is it a recent thing (IE within the last year)? Is there any particular reason why a referee should get in free to a game he's not refereeing?

And what has charging umpires got to do with refs? In club games the umpires are volunteer completely independently of the referee: one from each club in leagues games and most underage championship games, the host club supplies them for championship games, and for games in Newbridge, every club playing that day gets a few lads to do the other games on that day.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:13 pm

Cilldara_2000 wrote:
I've never heard of this ref's pass before and I stood on the gate for years. Is it a recent thing (IE within the last year)? Is there any particular reason why a referee should get in free to a game he's not refereeing?

And what has charging umpires got to do with refs? In club games the umpires are volunteer completely independently of the referee: one from each club in leagues games and most underage championship games, the host club supplies them for championship games, and for games in Newbridge, every club playing that day gets a few lads to do the other games on that day.

Referees bring their own umpires for championship matches, should they have to pay in ?.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Sat Apr 30, 2016 10:01 pm

Most of the matches in Hawkfield or St. Conleths the Ref. normally brings his own umpires.
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:03 pm

Big Full Back wrote:
Most of the matches in Hawkfield or St. Conleths the Ref. normally brings his own umpires.

Certainly for senior championship etc
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PostSubject: Re: Referee Watch   Sun May 01, 2016 12:24 am

The ref pass has been around for maybe 15 years, it may have been discontinued during that period but it was first brought in around 2000. It used to cover any game played within county Kildare.
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