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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:09 am

Spot on there Jim...gets himself into great positions around the middle but can't deliver the ball to our forwards..sticky corner back...Wouldn't have him down as a great tackler though..
If we're going out in the league with the same line up/shape we're in big trouble...
Johnny Byrne full back? Opinions?
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:14 am

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What's opinion on Neil Flynn? He can go from brutal to top class in the space of a few plays.

I think that's natural for a 21/22 yo starting his second season. Well worth persevering with through any downturns in form, he has that touch of magic no other Kildare forward (except Niall Kelly) has. I'm thinking of flashes like that goal against Clare in the league final last year, just top class.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:52 am

Play this lad here, play that lad there.. it's like pick 15 and shur we'll place them then.. there's a couple of fellas now who have played in a lot of different positions and there not getting any better.. but look, maybe that's all we have and we may make do, help us.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:11 am

Maynooth beaten by a point by UL after extra time, led by 9 or 10 at one stage early in the second half.

Least it'll free up a few lads from Sigerson duties.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:58 am

Meanwhile, back at the ranch... game v Down will be televised on Éir sport 1 at 7pm on March 18.

Not sure if TG4 are showing any of our matches - they are utterly useless at promoting their GAA coverage so we'll only find out about 5 mins before throw-in.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:44 am

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Meanwhile, back at the ranch... game v Down will be televised on Éir sport 1 at 7pm on March 18.

Not sure if TG4 are showing any of our matches - they are utterly useless at promoting their GAA coverage so we'll only find out about 5 mins before throw-in.

Jayus how can you say that about tg4. Only for them there would be no.GAA coverage
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:31 am

The do more for real GAA fans than any other medium
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:05 pm

Here's the full list of what eirsport is showing, case anyone's interested.

4 February

Mayo v Monaghan (F) – eir Sport 2 HD – 7pm
Down v Fermanagh (F) – eir Sport 2 SD – 7pm
Laois v Louth (F) – eir Sport 1 – 7pm

11 February

Dublin v Tipperary (H) – eir Sport 1 – 5pm
Cork v Clare (H) – eir Sport 2 SD – 7pm
Dublin v Tyrone (F) – eir Sport 1 – 7pm
Kerry v Mayo (F) – eir Sport 2 HD – 7pm

18 February

Cork v Dublin (H) – eir Sport 2 HD – 7pm
Laois v Offaly (H) – eir Sport 1 – 7pm

25 February

Mayo v Roscommon (F) – eir Sport 2 HD – 7pm
Laois v Tipperary (F) – eir Sport 1 – 7pm
Down v Meath (F) – eir Sport 2 SD – 7pm

4 March

Dublin v Waterford (H) – eir Sport 2 HD – 5pm
Cavan v Donegal (F) – eir Sport 2 SD – 7pm
Dublin v Mayo (F) – eir Sport 2 HD – 7pm
Tyrone v Monaghan (F) – eir Sport 1 – 7pm

11 March

Tipperary v Kilkenny (H) – eir Sport 2 HD – 7pm
Laois v Limerick (H) – eir Sport 1 – 7pm

18 March

Kerry v Dublin (F) – eir Sport 2 HD – 7pm
Donegal v Tyrone (F) – eir Sport 2 SD – 7pm
Down v Kildare (F) – eir Sport 1 – 7pm

25 March

Dublin v Roscommon (F) – eir Sport 2 HD – 7pm
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:45 pm

Someone from the Queens obviously works for them. How can they be on three times playing in div 3.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:29 pm

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Someone from the Queens obviously works for them. How can they be on three times playing in div 3.

lol!
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:53 am

Fionn Dowling is out for 2-3 weeks foot injury picked up in training on Tuesday night
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:10 am

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Someone from the Queens obviously works for them. How can they be on three times playing in div 3.

Suppose having lights puts them in the Saturday night slot
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:54 am

Meath 5/6 draw 15/2 Kildare 6/5
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:05 am

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Rex wrote:
Someone from the Queens obviously works for them. How can they be on three times playing in div 3.

Suppose having lights puts them in the Saturday night slot

Probably, but how do the County Board sell us to sponsors. If we had lights in Newbridge we could be on tv more than once in the league and get a few extra quid. It's a terrible indictment that we don't have floodlights.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:19 am

the reality is that meath are a poor side. that being said whether we can beat them or not i dont know. think we have better players but this game will likely be won/lost on the sideline
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:23 pm

I was talking to a well informed Meath insider yesterday and was told they are SHOCKING. Worst panel in years. Kildare can beat them I feel.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:02 pm

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I was talking to a well informed Meath insider yesterday and was told they are SHOCKING.  Worst panel in years.  Kildare can beat them I feel.

Wonder what the kildare insider would say about us ?.
We won't get anything simple from navan, hopefully I'm wrong.... but a performance like the last day would win nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:58 pm

No reason to be overly optimistic based on the last day. When did we last beat Meath? Certainly a long way from the McGeeney days when we won 6 in a row I think. Would be a massive boost to our chances of staying up if we could win.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:07 am

This'll be like two old men at a bar talking about how great they were in their youth.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:52 am

Last win - O Byrne cup final in '14, and more importantly League - 2012. Championship of course was that infamous night in Navan, the summer previous! Not too optimistic about sundays assignment...
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:25 am

lilywhites on tour wrote:
Last win - O Byrne cup final in '14, and more importantly League - 2012. Championship of course was that infamous night in Navan, the summer previous! Not too optimistic about sundays assignment...

Yeah thought that game was the last win. Hard to believe it is 5 years ago. Ollie Lyons scored a late winner after Meath somehow had hit the upright from in front of the goal. We lost a game there in the league a few years ago under Jason Ryan after a brutal display.
This present team has the potential to be a lot better than Ryan's team so lets hope they believe in themselves.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:50 am

Any team news ?.
Very little excitement around this upcoming match.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:04 pm

Was there ever much excitement midweek before the first league match? In any county? Not much to speculate about until you see a teamsheet.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:47 pm

http://hoganstand.com/Kildare/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=265674

Kildare manager Cian O’Neill has revealed that they are playing to a different system this year.

Currently preparing for the opening round clash against Meath in the NFL Division Two campaign, O’Neill has been working on a new game plan for the Lilywhites.

“We are playing to a different shape this year, I would have liked to have played that way last year but it was not possible; any tactical set up is
totally dependent on the players available on the day,” O’Neill told the Leinster Leader.

“I can see Sunday being a hugely defensive game, having seen Meath play this season, that’s the way they have set up under their new management; very defensively, so it will be a huge challenge, but a challenge we are looking forward too.

“All matches are important; you want to get a win of course but all games are important, and while it would be very nice to get a win on Sunday, no, it will not be the end of the world if we don’t but we are certainly going there to win; expecting to win.”


Interesting to see what the shape will be, every team in the country could make the same argument that your tactical setup depends on what players are available on the day. What was worrying last year was playing one way throughout the entire league campaign and then changing it completely for the Wexford game – especially with O’Neill coming out afterwards and saying that how we setup that day was how he wanted to play all along.

Against Dublin we looked tired and sloppy, there’s limits to how much a manager can improve that in the space of 2 weeks but you’d hope guys are a bit fresher at least.

At the moment I’d go with following lineups to start and finish;

Donnellan
P Kelly, O’Grady, Lyons
Byrne, Doyle, Conway
Moolick, Feely
K Cribbin, P Cribbin, O’Donoghue
N Kelly, D Flynn, N Flynn

Donnellan
P Kelly, Hyland, Lyons
Ryan, Doyle, Conway
Moolick, P Cribbin
McNally, D Flynn, N Kelly
Callaghan, Hurley, McCormack
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:03 am

I think we can match all the teams in Div 2 when we are playing well. The problem this Kildare team has is the ability to drop their levels of performance dramatically during a game. When they are going through a rough patch they concede heavily. Then they find it hard to get going again and wrestle the momentum back. They need to find consistency or dog out the bad patches. Probably both.
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