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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:08 am

“I can see Sunday being a hugely defensive game." - O'Neill.

That would suggest we are setting up very defensively, as opposed to Wexford and Westmeath fun-fests last year! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:40 am

Kildare team:

Mark Donnellan
Mick O Grady
David Hyland
Ollie Lyons
Johnny Byrne
Eoin Doyle
Keith Cribbin
Kevin Feely
Tommy Moolick
Fergal Conway
Niall Kelly
Paul Cribbin
Neil Flynn
Daniel Flynn
Ben McCormack
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:43 am

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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:03 am

O Neill is obviously happy enough with what he saw against Dublin 3rd team, only 2 changes and both of the players in came on at half time the last day!
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:11 am

Not surprised by that team, but for me Keith Cribbin is no half back and is a weak link in an already troubled defence.

Anyhow best of luck to them a win would be greatly appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:22 pm

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O Neill is obviously happy enough with what he saw against Dublin 3rd team, only 2 changes and both of the players in came on at half time the last day!

Limited options I'd say tc .. hopefully we can grind out something.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:32 pm

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Not surprised by that team, but for me Keith Cribbin is no half back and is a weak link in an already troubled defence.

Beat me to it, we were trying him there nearly seven years ago (loss to Louth in 2010) and Ryan and now O'Neill have done the same. They all probably want to use his pace on the counter-attack but to me, he never, ever looks comfortable as a half-back.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:04 pm

Piss poor meath team. We have the better players, now we just need the belief and a good kildare crowd to travel up to navan
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:36 pm

Think that team picked itself after what players played the league. If Dowling was fit then maybe he would have got in.
Didn't comment after any of the games so far and its fair to say that we are all thinking the same, nothing new, poor options being taken etc. But in the first 20 minutes of the Dublin game it looked like we had a game plan. Flynn bursts out for the ball bringing the full back with him. This opened up space for the full forward line or runners going through. Why we stopped doing if after 15 minutes I do not know but I think it is something that could get us scores.

If we play with heart on Sunday then Kildare by 2 for me.

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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:19 am

If the players heads are right and the tactics are right, its a game we will win.

Negatives - see the last 5 and a half pages of the O'Byrne Cup thread

Positives
- from 1 to 15 our players have more ability and the Meath bench is not going to scare anyone
- Bryan Menton is a terrific player but he can't play 3 places at once. If he's at midfield, it leaves McGill against Dan Flynn. McGill always struggles with bigger full-forwards. If they have to move Menton back there, their midfield is weak. Either way he's not picking up Paul Cribbin.
- Even with Menton out there, we should have an edge at midfield.
- McEntee seems to be trying to re-invent Wallace as a wing-back and play with a 2 man full-forward line. Might be better for us if he does these things.
- Presumably O'Neill has seen them struggle to break down Laois when Laois got numbers behind the ball and slowed them down.

In relation to Keith Cribbin
- Any chance this is a ruse and Shea Ryan or Cian Donoghue start?
- They've had a look at Meath and recognised that Kennelly is a greater threat helping out the Meath midfield than he is going forward and they want Cribbin's height to deal with that.
- As long as he isn't marking Cillian O'Sullivan we could get away with it but Cribbin is a half forward if anything at this level.

Most of all best of luck to the players and management on Sunday.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:47 pm

I'm worry about this one to be honest. I'm worried that this team has too many scares and are brittle. They need someone to strip them back to basics and rebuild them. I think Roli will be a massive help but there's huge work needed and a few lads let back to their clubs not became they are not good footballers technically but they just lack something.
But the best of luck to the lads tomorrow 2 points would be a major shot in the arm
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:38 pm

I just saw the Dublin team fo face Cavan and there isn't 1 of the team that won the O'Byrne cup on it.....now I'm really worried
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:06 am

Wouldn't have really expected any Jim.. and probably none on the bench either.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:02 am

I would have expected 1 or 2 to be honest.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:57 am

Just shows how far behind we are.. Dublin A. B and C are probably the 3 best in leinster.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:03 am

SeamusMurphy wrote:
Just shows how far behind we are.. Dublin A. B and C are probably the 3 best in leinster.

And probably top 10 in Ireland the same . People need to stop comparing Kildare to Dublin, they would do they same in every province bar Munster and even after a while they would grind Kerry down through funding population oh and playing nearly every game in Croke Park.  Our standard is 12th - 20th, same as Meath.  We need to target top 12 and a solid run in the qualifiers. Realistic expectations need to be set.


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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:34 am

Exactly , I laugh at other Counties taking the piss about Leinster and it's predictability. Dublin would destroy every other province if they were in it.

Looking at Down V Fermanagh this evening and Fermanagh look good. Strong runners, good shape and accurate. Down look lost.
Div 2 could be a real bloodbath this year with teams beating each other. If we could get a point or two tomorrow we would be in a very good spot.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:46 am

Yeah big score by Fermanagh tonight and goes to show you can't count on any thing. I would have thought Down would have had too much fire power but it proves that this could be a real highs and lows league campaign
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:32 am

Jez laois are in a poor place at the moment.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:20 pm

SeamusMurphy wrote:
Jez laois are in a poor place at the moment.

I think its a great place.Long may it last Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:25 am

But the O'Byrne Cup...
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:42 am

Surrounded by a bunch of inbred yokels, somewhat consoled by the knowledge Meath are shite.

Feely having a good game in the middle, both Cribbins, Dan Flynn and Niall Kelly playing well too. Meath coming back into the last 10 minutes but we should have enough to hold on
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:47 am

Regardless of how poor Meath were, you have to be able to enjoy these victories, a hammering in any man's language and a marker hopefully laid for the championship. To do it in the graveyard for Kildare senior team's that is Pairc Tailteann just makes it sweeter.
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:20 am

Great result. Well done to all involved
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PostSubject: Re: National League Division 2    Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:23 am

Enjoyed that. Credit where it's due. Kildare were up for it today and turned in a good team display.
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